Friday, March 31, 2006

Bob Geiger email #1

From: Bob Geiger [mailto:bgeiger@descenteus.com]
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Chris
> Peterson
> Cc: jeske4ogden@comcast.net; Glasmann, Bill; Bill Glasmann; Godfrey,
> Matthew; Council, City
> Subject: RE: LIFT OGDEN! So much for Open, Honest Discussion!
>
>
>
> Fellow Ogdenites -
>
>
>
> (Just a few quotes from the opposition today.)
>
>
>
> How little those who oppose Ogden's current plan feel about the
> potential and intellect of the citizens of our great city and those
who
> are here to help us rejuvenate it. Certainly, our city can be more,
but
> to say that Ogden's current citizens are incapable of participating
in
> the growth is to drastically underestimate and insult us all! And to
> call investors "Superficial", "Embarrassing" and "Bums" is to insult
> civil minded people who see Ogden as a good place to invest. See the
> quotes below from today's correspondence between those who oppose.
> Please note how important it is that we all get involved so that
these
> people do not end up defining Ogden and deflecting investments in our
> community that come along once in a blue moon!
>
>
>
> 1) "Did Mr. Peterson mention anything about the people already living
in
> Ogden - the ones who probably do not fit in his definition of "highly
> educated individuals," but are hard-working, family-oriented members
of
> the Ogden Community? Those are the people who probably outnumber
> Peterson's highly educated individuals by a 5-to-1 margin. Those are
the
> people he AND the mayor ought to be talking to about transforming the
> city to stimulate economic prosperity."
>
>
>
> (As if no one in Ogden is educated. As if everyone in Ogden is left
out
> of the phrase "highly educated individuals." From what I understand,
we
> have an entire University of highly educated individuals, and many
> graduates right here in our town. I guess that they don't feel that
> they meet the criteria of"highly educated individuals". )
>
>
>
> 2) I actually prefer seeing homeless bums creeping around town than
> those fat, rich, white men with grandios ideas, and secret get richer
> quick pyramid schemes! (This preference implies that Ogden, Utah's
> demographic is "homeless bums" and that we should all prefer such a
> demographic so as not to feel out of place among educated and
successful
> people.)
>
> 3) This scheme is nothing but a few rich white men getting richer off
> the backs of the poor white, hispanic and blacks.
>
> (This statement implies that poor white, Hispanic and blacks in our
> community are incapable of finding ways to benefit in an environment
of
> economic progress. These are low expectations, and frankly very
> insulting I think.)
>
> 4) The goal is to dangle all that money out there so that no serious
> questions will be asked until the real estate scheme to sieze Ogden's
> premier public park in the foothills and to turn it over to the
mayor's
> cronies among the developers is achieved.
>
> (This statement implies that the entire population of Ogden, except
for
> a few "Smart" people, are incapable of discerning truth from un-truth
> and that we are all about to be lulled into a hypnotic trans that
will
> lead to our communities demise. Again, quite a low viewpoint of the
> people of Ogden.)
>
> 5) Are God-erson's highly educated individuals going to merge with
the
> people already living in Ogden.
>
> (Again...The graduates of WSU and the populous of Ogden apparently do
> not have a place in the world of "highly educated" individuals.)
>
> These low expectations and perception of this community permeate the
> discussion of those who are seeking to "t'row out" Chris Peterson and
> the "results-laden" economic plan that is currently on the table for
> this city. They prefer a city has lost all of its business and tax
> base, one filled with homeless people, to one that is prospering.
They
> prefer this because they see no place for Ogden's citizenry in a
> vibrant, economically growing city. Apparently we are all incapable
of
> participating and benefiting from a $500,000,000 investment in our
> community.
>
>
>
> "I pray President Milner can discern 'truth from error' and will
't'row
> the bums out!" - Sharon Beeche (Civil Discourse Defined!) Sharon is
> speaking of those in favor of the current plan and those businessmen
who
> are actively participating and investing it the current direction of
> Ogden. Where oh where do business people get a feeling of hostility
> when they come to Ogden?
>
>
>
> Response to Last Night's presentation - "Peterson was an
embarrassment.
> He's charming, handsome and totally superficial. Someone around me
said,
> 'this is like a pyramid scheme'.....The mayor is always looking for
> 'more ways to gain revenue'. How many more buildings can be burned?"
-
> Weary (I think I know who, but it would be unfair to assume.)

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